1968 cold case cleared: Wake County deputies, SBI discuss decades-old investigation
Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today
Uh we're pleased to provide information
Today of a recent collaboration between the Wake County Sheriff's
Office North Carolina State Bureau of Investigations First Genesis First
Jeans LLC and Austria Forensics
Uh this collaboration resulted in the clearing of a 1968
unsolved homicide
And we believe it's important to share this information to
send a message to the public that law enforcement never
gives up
That we pursue every lead and we embrace technology and
partnerships to solve crimes
The order of events today will proceed with Sergeant Kenneth
Kay who was the lead investigator in this investigation
To provide details of the investigation connect the dots identifying
the victim and the connection to the perpetrator followed by
Director Chip Hawley from the FBI to outline SBI's involvement
followed by Leslie Kaufman from First Genes LLC to explain
how the DNA process worked to bring about this outcome
Thank you
I'm Sergeant K with Wake County Sheriff's Office
Uh this case originated in April 28th of 1968
Deputies originally responded to the area of 1010 Road near
Lake Wheeler in reference to a deceased body that was
located in a field
Uh deputies immediately called for assistance from the FBI as
the body was identified as a white female who was
burnt beyond recognition
Um neighbors in the area were interviewed and provided information
saying that they had seen a female matching that description
walking in the area but no one could identify who
she was
The victim was located with few belongings no identification and
was disfigured so a positive ID could not be completed
A pathologist in the area was able to provide information
saying they believe she was a 35 year old female
and a facial reconstruction was completed but still no identification
was able to be completed at the time
Uh with some evidence left on scene there wasn't enough
for an arrest and the victim to be identified but
a person of interest was originally identified as a gentleman
who lived in close proximity to this area and was
named Robert Reagan
In 2004 investigators received new information involving Robert Reagan as
a suspect
Interviews were conducted with a witness providing details to investigator
On clues and evidence that were left in the area
that were not made public at the time
This witness was also able to provide information saying that
they had seen Reagan in possession of an identification card
for a female by the name of Holcomb
They could not remember the full name but knew the
name Holcomb when they provided that information
At that point in time the district attorney's office in
2004 was contacted and advised that they would pursue charges
on Robert Reagan as a suspect in this case
He however had passed in 1992 so no charges were
ever filed
The sheriff's office did not close the case at that
time because we wanted to identify the victim
For generations uh the sheriff's office worked on this hoping
to bring closure to a family that had yet to
be identified
Efforts were placed on examining evidence concentrating with DNA
Multiple tests were completed with the assistance of the FBI
on the victim's clothing shoes and glasses
However a DNA profile was never able to be established
There was one key item that was taken from the
deceased by the coroner which was cut hair
This evidence was kept in the sheriff's office custody in
our evidence for 57 years
Just recently the hair was provided and sent off for
a suitable DNA comparison and that was sent to Estrella
Forensics
They were able to successfully develop a profile for the
victim
The profile from this victim was sent to Leslie Kaufman
with First Jean's LLC and she was able to identify
a possible relative after hours and hours of working on
a family dynamic for this victim
The sheriff's office recently met with relatives of this victim
and additional DNA testing was completed and confirmed that the
victim was in fact a female by the name of
Myrtle Holcomb
She was born in 1919 and family had said she
was traveling to the area of North Carolina from Florida
before her murder
Uh receiving this information to family was a shock because
they had just lost touch with her
They weren't sure where she was at the time or
what had gone on with her but they they knew
at some time she had passed that she was born
in 1919 um
The family has requested privacy at this time because they're
just devastated by this information and trying to process everything
that's going on
Uh her children and grandchildren were were unaware of anything
that had happened with her
Uh this information also
Helps collaborate the information received in 2004 as the identification
card that was seen by the witness did in fact
say the name Holcomb and again our deceased victim is
Myrtle Holcomb um
I'd personally like to thank the SBI and Agent Nate
Holcomb who's excuse me not Nate Holcomb Nate Thompson who'd
recently retired uh he's been a tremendous help with the
sheriff's office along the way for trying to identify this
and the assistance of Australiaa Forensics and Leslie Kaufman with
first genes without their help none of this would have
been possible
um this time I'll turn it over to
Director Holly
Thank you Sheriff Director Hollywood North Carolina State Bureau of
Investigation um
Right now I would I would like to thank the
sheriff's office in collaboration uh with our uh cold case
uh team of agents
Uh they right now even now we have 37 open
cases of cold cases across the state of North Carolina
And this just reinvigorates what we're trying to do and
bring closure to uh victims out there
Uh there are so many that there's a lot of
cases for Murphy to Mania and we're trying to make
sure that we provide the necessary assistance like in this
particular case we were able to provide over $10,000 worth
of funding uh that uh and along with the sheriff's
office funding to to run these tests
These tests are very expensive but what you get out
of it is is you can't put a price on
it
So we would like to thank the collaboration with more
agencies across the state
Having those funds for agency even like Wake County Sheriff's
office is imperative that we are there for them in
their time of need and we really appreciate the collaboration
and hope that we can keep moving forward and bringing
victims uh some justification and knowing that their families have
have some uh type of relief in their pain and
bringing suspects to justice
Thank you
Uh my name is Leslie Kaufman
I'm with First Gen's Forensic Genealogy
The first thing I'd like to do is commend the
Wake County Sheriff's Office for maintaining such great evidence and
keeping this case alive for so long and the FBI
for the cold case team um they were imperative to
us getting this work done
Providing funds is the first part of it of course
and the very most important um but the second part
is knowing what to do with the DNA
Um As for Forensics has provided uh a very was
able to provide a very good DNA profile and kit
which I was able to upload to two different databases
that law enforcement is allowed to use
They are Jet Match and Family Tree DNA
From those two I was able to develop a a
family tree for Ms
Holcomb
Um I actually had two trees built to a total
of little over 4000 people
It took me about 4 months to get a lead
provide a lead to uh Kenny and well to Kenneth
and I apologize for using his name uh in the
short term but um anyway we were able to get
a final uh identification September and um
I open the floor to any questions
Good So Yes Yes or no Like was she married
Did she you mentioned she had children uh she was
married with children but as uh Kenneth Kay said um
the family is asking for total privaecy so we're not
going to give out any information where she's from uh
the name of the children or grandchildren to try to
provide that privacy for them um
Two children And I'm not sure how many grandchildren she
had but to
So Uh She has 2 children we'll leave it at
that because we do want to give them the anonymity
that they've asked for
Do a question for each of you at any point
how unusual and satisfying is all of this Well it's
the oldest cold case in North Carolina solved with forensic
genealogy as far as I know and uh so that's
the first
It's very rare that um we're being able to do
cases with hair
That's a recent development with as your forensics
This is the 2nd case that I've been able to
solve with forensic genetic genealogy using hair
And it's a wonderful feeling being able to give somebody
an answer after all these years it's incredible
I understand that it's devastating for the victim but it's
also satisfying to know what happens
Sorry is there any indication about what Ms
Holcomb would have been doing here in the area and
whether or not she had any connection that has been
identified with the potential suspect in the case Uh I'll
let Kenneth answer that
No sir we there's information from the family that they
knew she was traveling to this area but they didn't
know why um
They Yeah they just they didn't know why
They knew she was coming here but they they they
didn't really have any answers to why she was coming
And as for any connection to Robert Reagan have you
guys been able to identify any No sir
Can I ask you as well how unusual and satisfying
is this Um yes sir uh
You know at the sheriff's department here I believe we
have
32 cold cases unsolved homicides that are open um that
we're working
Uh investigators have several of them that they're they're working
at a time um
We try to put all the effort in that we
can
There's it's a lot of going back and looking over
evidence and and reexamining cases and finding new ways and
new things to move forward with
Um DNA is a big part of that and I
think that's the the big key is is looking at
these things
I think it's very satisfying to be able to actually
talk to families and tell them that you know we've
been able to come up and identify someone or to
help try to solve and and bring closure to cases
and families
Debbie did you guys ever think
You get to this point
My mother was 8 years old when this case started
Um I you know I wasn't even thought of
I I uh commend just the the numerous investigators before
me that worked on this case and kept things relevant
and updating case files because we still actually have the
original case file from when this started and it's it's
amazing to go back to actually go back and see
those original notes handwritten notes from 1968 and the notes
that have been developed in further in the 70s and
the 80s and and so on
Yeah Does this give you hope for the other unsolved
cases and what would your message be to potential victims'
families and also with the DNA testing you know going
about funding that I mean how do you reconcile the
money to continue doing this type of testing Yes it
definitely gives us hope you know our staff is committed
and dedicated the passion there to solve every unsolved crime
We believe again we bring a degree of closure to
families of the victims
We also hold the responsible person accountable
So that's a motivating factor and we believe that as
we continue to work hard and dedicate ourselves to this
and with and embrace technology that we're gonna be able
to clear more cases
And how do you continue funding that I mean it
seems pretty costly in this case
Definitely we have to think outside the box but that's
where collaboration is so important
I said we embrace the partnerships
It's about the public private non-profit faith-based partnerships that allow
us to continue to serve
How many cold cases do you have right now I
would like to double check that
Uh 32 unsolved homicides
OK
And The victims' remains I mean where are they right
now and if something like this happened today how would
it be investigated differently than six decades ago Again uh
we embrace the different tech technology exists today you know
now we're able to readily get things done in the
labs instead of years when it took for this new
technology to come into existence but through the FBI and
federal agencies we're able to
We have our own local uh Wake County Bureau of
Forensic Science who's able to help us immediately jump on
a case start doing identification process start linking connecting dots
So we're confident that we can move at a faster
pace and do things more timely the cost of the
advancement in technology
Directly you like to share
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We thank you so much for being here today
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